tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post7550935069087572049..comments2024-03-01T02:12:09.495-08:00Comments on Health Correlator: Compensatory adaptation as a unifying concept: Understanding how we respond to diet and lifestyle changesNed Kockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-47515005431112151572014-11-28T11:27:42.619-08:002014-11-28T11:27:42.619-08:00Hi Ned! though I will admit that I have not read ...Hi Ned! though I will admit that I have not read all of your posts - or even all of the comments to this one post – I very much like what I have read of yours so far and I’d like to ask your opinion (and I apologize in advance if the answer is located in a post I have not yet read.)<br /><br />I am a female and I have always been a 35lb overweight, chronic dieter. This is not for lack of discipline: I eat clean, workout regularly, and weigh and record all of my food.<br /><br />Recently, I met with a doctor that called me a classic under eater, over trainer. I met with another nutrition and physique specialist who agreed – at their suggestion, I started eating 1800 calories per day, 40% of which from carbs (about 180 grams) <br /><br />Prior to this I was eating 500-700 calories per day, with less than 30 grams of carbs per day… for the better part of a year… with of course the occasional slip ups on the weekends – but would never ever break 1200 calories per day. <br /><br />I decided to give this whole compensatory adaptation/starvation mode theory a try… took their advice and ate started eating 1800 calories per day (very clean, specific meals, every 3 hours, 6 times per day.) <br /><br />And I gained 12 lbs in 10 days. Talk about frustrating.<br /><br />Both the nutrition coach and the doctor say that it is mostly water weight and that my body is in a bit of shock from the increased calories and carbs… <br /><br />But, I am not kidding, I went up at least a pants size. I look bigger, I feel bigger… and it is just really discouraging.<br /><br />So my questions for you are… is compensatory adaptation really the reason for why I have not been able to lose weight on a low calorie, low carb diet? Like REALLY? And if so, why didn't my body just respond as illustrated in your water fasting post? <br /><br />And is it REALLY possible that I am just bloated with water and not fat? Even though I am a full pants size bigger? <br /><br />I want to believe it. I want to believe that I can actually eat 1800 calories a day and lose this stubborn body fat. But now I am 45lbs overweight instead of 35 AND I feel bigger and my clothes don’t fit. Is it possible that it is truly water and not fat? <br /><br />Thanks for your time, hopefully this rand makes sense... and thanks for all of your posts!!! <br /><br />EliseElise Marie Cecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09740567090836365032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-63967991833184712272011-11-30T06:20:30.207-08:002011-11-30T06:20:30.207-08:00Hi Xenia. Sorry for the belated response. CA is a ...Hi Xenia. Sorry for the belated response. CA is a process that must have been shaped by evolution, at least in part. And there are several diseases that seem to be caused by major differences between our current and ancient environments. These diseases are generally referred as “diseases of civilization” or “diseases of affluence”.<br /><br /> We also need to keep in mind the rather depressing but undeniable reality that, in animal species (and most living organisms), evolution and immortality are incompatible with one another:<br /><br /> http://bit.ly/hqLCpnNed Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-87475806376348436762011-08-10T21:20:12.664-07:002011-08-10T21:20:12.664-07:00Sorry, I meant to say blog (and not blow).Sorry, I meant to say blog (and not blow).Xenianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-58737963967036089862011-08-10T21:18:19.984-07:002011-08-10T21:18:19.984-07:00Hi Ned.
What an extremely interesting topic! And...Hi Ned. <br /><br />What an extremely interesting topic! And what a coincidence that I found your blow now when I have been pondering the following question for a while:<br /><br />How can it be that you can help to heal the body by two completely opposite approaches: you can either give the body some good stuff that it needs - like herbs, vitamins, minerals, antioxidants ... But you can also heal it with the help of homeopaty where you give the body diluted amounts of poison. Which is definitely a sort of CA approach. <br /><br />Where is the line between the two and how can it be that both works? I would really like to hear your thoughts on that. <br /><br />Another question regarding CA: why is it that not every disease is considered by the body as a CA - one would expect that the negative stimuli would make the body work harder and help it overcome such obstacles. <br /><br />Thanks and all the best,<br />XeniaXenianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-517815866176161042010-07-16T12:45:29.250-07:002010-07-16T12:45:29.250-07:00Hi Kindke.
As it happens, myostatin deficiency a...Hi Kindke.<br /><br />As it happens, myostatin deficiency also causes significant body fat loss, in addition to muscle gain.<br /><br />The downside is that it apparently increases one's metabolism to the point where even with enormous amounts of food consumed every day it is very hard to gain any weight. The gain ends up being muscle, with little fat to spare for building certain important tissues. This sounds dangerous because more than 60 percent of our brain is fat.<br /><br />I haven't read up on the myostatin deficiency (and related receptor problems) literature, but it seems like a very rare condition. A drug that could suppress the effects of myostatin might potentially lead to a real Incredible Hulk, but I think we would see some negative side effects.<br /><br />Thanks for bringing this up; myostatin and its effects are fascinating topics!Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-43665025130064180932010-07-16T11:20:28.962-07:002010-07-16T11:20:28.962-07:00I guess this is why we plateau on weight loss diet...I guess this is why we plateau on weight loss diets, especially low-carb.<br /><br />If we assume that the body is constantly changing its hormonal and metabolic processes in way to "match" the energy intake ( an average over the short term like 1 week or something ) so that ultimately, whatever diet we are consuming, our body fat % wont change in the long term.<br /><br />The analogy with muscle size is spot on I think. Adipose tissue mass and muscle size surely behave in the same way with regards to CA. The same is also true of Bone density as noted by Wolffs law.<br /><br />Myostatin is a protein that is regulating muscle size though, regardless of CA. If you interfere with this protein, the muscle size "set point" is massively increased.<br /><br />Perhaps there is a similiar protein regulating adipose tissue size?Kindkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15841418412425329998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-53518532806633759322010-06-26T08:38:22.842-07:002010-06-26T08:38:22.842-07:00Hi Scott.
These two elements you mentioned, mild ...Hi Scott.<br /><br />These two elements you mentioned, mild calorie restriction and cycling, seem to be very effective.<br /><br />What most people don't realize is that the process of body recomposition, if done correctly, is very slow. That is the way it should be be.<br /><br />Still, the difference is remarkable if you look at pictures taken 6 months apart.Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-41847356626308512602010-06-26T06:49:55.760-07:002010-06-26T06:49:55.760-07:00This is great stuff. In my never-ending search to ...This is great stuff. In my never-ending search to be thinner than my genetics seem to indicate, I have tried every combination and/or amount of macronutrient that you can imagine. They all work the first time. They work less well the second time and after that (for me) there is no more magic. <br /><br />I have always thought that I "inoculated" myself and my body had some kind of memory on how to combat a diet, just like it would remember how to combat a virus. Thanks for putting a name on it.<br /><br />Over time and much trial and error I've sorted it out pretty well and learned what works best. If I had to sum that up, I'd say that keeping calorie deprivation mild is the first key, and the second key is timing those calories...IF, workouts, etc. all play an interchangeable role. Composition of the diet depending on your goals comes after that.<br /><br />Humans...in the modern world, we spend an awful lot of time fighting our basic nature if we don't want that nature to do us in.<br /><br />Scott WScott Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10687098328064801055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-74210503592805012722010-06-25T06:05:51.729-07:002010-06-25T06:05:51.729-07:00Hi Chris. The answer is here:
http://healthcorrel...Hi Chris. The answer is here:<br /><br />http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/06/fructose-in-fruits-is-good-for-you.htmlNed Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-41554956948887805932010-06-24T20:17:35.297-07:002010-06-24T20:17:35.297-07:00Hi Ned,
Pardon me, off topic: Concerning your res...Hi Ned,<br /><br />Pardon me, off topic: Concerning your response on Free the Animal.<br /><br />Why is fructose important?<br /><br />I'm a reformed SAD carboholic. I've maintain a 65lbs fat loss for more than a year now. I eat very little fruit due to of the stimulative affect on my appetite. My post-workout carbs are yams/potatoes and occasionally a little dairy (coincidently similar to Richard). I've achieved serious strength, endurance and speed gains with this approach. <br /><br />Am I just being fruit/fructose phobic and potentially loosing out on even greater gains?<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Current post is interesting, as always.chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07478646068209558795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-76405736116475417432010-06-24T07:53:52.250-07:002010-06-24T07:53:52.250-07:00I have always been amazed at what people can achie...I have always been amazed at what people can achieve through persistence, when obstacles are posed to them.<br /><br />One example that I discuss in the book, toward the end, is that of Jan-Ove Waldner. Waldner was nicknamed "the Mozart of table tennis", and in the the US, the "Michael Jordan of table tennis". The link below has more details.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan-Ove_Waldner<br /><br />In short, he became the most successful table tennis player ever, even though he was relatively stationary at the table; almost flat-footed, compared with the emerging Asian players. He turned a possible limitation into a game feature that made him close to unbeatable at this prime.Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-34856259538732047032010-06-24T07:52:16.091-07:002010-06-24T07:52:16.091-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-72890042878404810352010-06-23T16:00:32.378-07:002010-06-23T16:00:32.378-07:00CA is an interesting concept. I've always felt...CA is an interesting concept. I've always felt that if a school finds a kid is gifted in some area, they shouldn't encourage the kid. They should put extra obstacles in his/her way.Gretchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17019921800841883073noreply@blogger.com