tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post7584004486020331285..comments2024-03-28T02:36:04.078-07:00Comments on Health Correlator: The “pork paradox”? National pork consumption and obesityNed Kockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-46789029867367327622015-07-27T02:40:53.190-07:002015-07-27T02:40:53.190-07:00Too Stressed about your FAT???
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Some studies, like the one below, may give the impression that pork consumption is a major cause of HE:<br /><br /> http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19211<br /><br /> From the article linked above: “Antibodies against hepatitis E virus (anti-HEV) were found in 248 Swedish and Danish patients between 1993 and 2007 … Patients with hepatitis of unknown etiology should therefore be investigated for anti-HEV even if they have not been outside Europe, since infections acquired from pigs or other animals should be taken into consideration.”<br /><br /> Still, the main cause of HE is known to be poor sanitation. Moreover, the percentage of incidence in the population suggested by the article linked above would be inconsistent with claims based on studies like Bridges’s, cited in my two last posts.<br /><br /> Finally, when you read the article linked above more carefully, you see things like this: “Among patients with known country of infection, most were infected in Asia, mainly on the Indian subcontinent.”<br /><br /> Well, pork consumption in India is fairly low compared with Denmark …Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-31264548155712781982012-02-24T06:38:16.073-08:002012-02-24T06:38:16.073-08:00My understanding of Paul’s pork trilogy is that th...My understanding of Paul’s pork trilogy is that the most likely culprits are pathogens that are inherent to pork, with pig organs and blood being particularly problematic in that respect.<br /><br /> Well, I am not convinced, and it is not only because of the population data analyses in my last two posts. We simply cannot ignore the traditional Okinawans, the longest-living traditional population in the world, who eat pigs from head to tail as a dietary staple:<br /><br /> http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/01/okinawa-island-of-pork.html<br /><br /> As for the country level data analyzed in this and the previous post, it is quite possible that pork consumption, at the country level, is a marker for choline consumption from pig products. If that is true, then avoiding products containing pig organ meat would not be a very good idea.Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-43871383905298063892012-02-24T06:20:33.867-08:002012-02-24T06:20:33.867-08:00Hi John. The psychological effect comment is unrel...Hi John. The psychological effect comment is unrelated to the WPF study. I’ll check Paul’s post. Thanks.Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-66994093205841868212012-02-24T06:10:05.699-08:002012-02-24T06:10:05.699-08:00Those are good points. You are implying that the ...Those are good points. You are implying that the found effect was influenced due to Weston A Price "believers"?<br /><br />Though that was a post-meal observation, there does seem a be a positive effect of bacon, which makes it seem like the omega-6 content is not what causes problems, if there are problems at all. <br /><br />Jaminet has posted his conclusion now, so there's something else to perhaps consider.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161850700121191487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-21741260534225168822012-02-23T06:55:18.194-08:002012-02-23T06:55:18.194-08:00I often run into people who say that they’ll have ...I often run into people who say that they’ll have a headache if they don’t eat anything for 4 hours or more. And guess what? They do have headaches, and feel physically ill, from fasting for 4 hours or more.<br /><br />That happens until they realize that there is no reason for them to have the headaches.<br /><br />They stop having them, even when they fast for 20 hours or more.<br /><br />If people believe strongly that a food will cause them harm, frequently they will display physical manifestations of health problems after eating that food ...Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-89176988950810992982012-02-22T19:26:37.246-08:002012-02-22T19:26:37.246-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-6939334662921168642012-02-22T19:22:10.764-08:002012-02-22T19:22:10.764-08:00Hi John. The WPF article you referred to may be th...Hi John. The WPF article you referred to may be this one:<br /><br /> http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/how-does-pork-prepared-in-various-ways-affect-the-blood<br /><br /> I am wary of studies that show “negative results” soon after something is eaten. If you look at various health markers immediately after resistance exercise, you may be able to make a “convincing” case for it being unhealthy.Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-87029019960888787892012-02-22T13:41:30.215-08:002012-02-22T13:41:30.215-08:00This is cool to see in combination with Jaminet...This is cool to see in combination with Jaminet's posts. Someone referenced the Weston A Price article about pork preparation, which is interesting; Paul mentioned bacon's apparent protectiveness from his data; I linked in the comments a study about bacon protecting rats against colon carcinogenesis (and keeping them lean)--just some more information to consider. I'm sure things like cut and pig's diet matter a lot as well. "Pork" doesn't tell us too much.<br /><br />I have heard stories of people experiencing inflammation reactions (swollen gums, joint pain) with pork, but it hasn't happened to me.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161850700121191487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-13772367394392462602012-02-20T16:12:09.797-08:002012-02-20T16:12:09.797-08:00Hi Pal. The overweight percentages tend to be quit...Hi Pal. The overweight percentages tend to be quite a lot higher than the obese percentages. I think that 40% is a good guess for the “adult” male population that is “overweight” in Denmark. The percentage of obese is quite a bit lower. This article has a graph that illustrates the differences:<br /><br /> http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/the-world-is-fatNed Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-60863103676534790292012-02-20T14:58:45.031-08:002012-02-20T14:58:45.031-08:00I see my confusion. They used FAOSTAT data from 1...I see my confusion. They used FAOSTAT data from 1996, whereas I was looking at 2007 data.<br /><br />But then, that raises another question. Was pigmeat consumption consistent in Denmark over the years?<br /><br />Looking at years 1961 to 2007, in kg, the mean was 50.5, the max was 70.6, and the min was 29.65.R. K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12869329191957913523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-35952178144089550582012-02-20T11:54:22.279-08:002012-02-20T11:54:22.279-08:00Ned,
As an aside, Asians suffer from poor glucose...Ned,<br /><br />As an aside, Asians suffer from poor glucose control and insulin resistance that may not necessarily manifest itself as obesity.js290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-87276660095055984822012-02-20T11:03:55.457-08:002012-02-20T11:03:55.457-08:00Very interesting Ned. I would have liked to see we...Very interesting Ned. I would have liked to see wealth added to many other epidemiological nutrition data to see how it confounds. Also, I think the Danes are getting quite fat. Over 40% of males there are overweight.Pål Jåbekkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14533960726900698251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-79986619177688983352012-02-20T07:12:55.111-08:002012-02-20T07:12:55.111-08:00The Bridges study, cited in the post and published...The Bridges study, cited in the post and published in 2003, lists pork consumption in Denmark at around 65 kg/p/y. That is about 143 lbs/p/y.<br /><br /> In the Bridges study sample Denmark is not the biggest consumer of pork. That honor goes to Austria, which also has low obesity levels and high life expectancy.Ned Kockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755560885749335053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8859456735165996893.post-43168424571308878152012-02-20T05:14:14.353-08:002012-02-20T05:14:14.353-08:00Another oddity. FAOSTAT shows a lower per capita ...Another oddity. FAOSTAT shows a lower per capita consumption of pigmeat in Denmark when I look at the 2007 data. (49.7 kg or 109.6 lbs). The NationMaster data appears to be older and the comments about 'pork consumption' indicate some skepticism about the data (click on 'Definition'.)R. K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12869329191957913523noreply@blogger.com