Tuesday, May 6, 2014

Why red meat consumption may appear unhealthy in scientific studies


There have been many academic articles in the past linking red meat intake with increased mortality, and there will be more in the future. I discussed one such article before here (, ). The findings in this article, which received an enormous amount of media attention, are the basis for my discussion in this post. I am interested in answering the question: Why red meat consumption may appear unhealthy in scientific studies?

This question leads to other questions, which are also addressed in this post. Can red meat intake be associated with increases and decreases in mortality, in the same study? Can red meat intake possibly cause increased mortality, at least for a percentage of the population?

All of the analyses discussed below have been conducted with the software WarpPLS (). This software supports multivariate analyses where relationships can be modeled as linear or nonlinear, with or without moderating effects included.

The ubiquitous J curve

The graph below shows how mortality varies with red meat intake. As you can see, the relationship is overall flat, meaning that red meat intake is overall unrelated with mortality. However, when we look at the two sets of points above and below the relationship line, for males and females, we see a different pattern. It appears that red meat intake and mortality are indeed significantly associated with one another, but in a J-curve pattern. That is, red meat intake is associated with increases and decreases in mortality, in the same study.



Each serving of red meat corresponds to approximately 84 g. Therefore, we could say, based on the graph above, that mortality would be minimized with consumption of a little less than 67 g/d of red meat (0.80*84) for males, and a little more than 115 g/d (1.37*84) for females. Not zero consumption, simply not a lot.

Now, one may say that this is very reasonable: a little bit of red meat is fine, but not too much. Generally females lose blood periodically, so they need a bit more than males. However, based on a number of other studies, it seems that the optimal intake amounts that we are seeing here are unusually low. If this is the case, what could be biasing the results?

Multivariate associations

Multivariate associations can distort results quite a lot. Such associations arise from correlations among multiple variables; correlations that should not per se be taken as strong indications of causality. Below are the correlations between “Red meat intake (servings/d)” and other relevant variables in the dataset taken from the study being considered here.

- Physical activity (MET-h/wk): -0.696. That is, increases in red meat intake are very strongly associated with decreases in physical activity in this study. One MET unit is equal to the energy produced per unit surface area of an average person seated at rest.

- Diabetes (%): 0.781. Increases in red meat intake are very strongly associated with increases in the percentages of individuals with diabetes.

- Food intake (cal/d): 0.604. Increases in red meat intake are strongly associated with increases in food intake in general.

- Current smoker (%): 0.519. Increases in red meat intake are strongly associated with increases in the percentages of smokers.

Let us take the physical activity variable, for example. It is inversely correlated with red meat intake, with a strong correlation coefficient, and it is unlikely that this correlation is due to direct causation - one way or the other. Below is the same graph as above, but now with labels indicating physical activity levels.



You can see that physical activity levels tend to be lower among females, which is in part due to them being on average smaller than males and thus burning fewer calories. Here you can see that physical activity is associated with mortality in a pattern that is pretty much the reverse of red meat intake. The reason for this is the strong inverse correlation between physical activity and red meat intake.

The highest mortality is associated with the lowest physical activity at the highest red meat intake. Interestingly, mortality goes up as one reaches the point at which physical activity is the highest at the lowest red meat intake.

Now take a look at the two graphs below. Both show the relationship between diabetes incidence and mortality. The first has biological sex indicated through legends. The second has physical activity levels indicated through labels.





One way to untangle the messy nature of the relationships above is to try to look for possible moderating effects, based on reasonable causal assumptions. One such assumption is that physical activity moderates the relationship between red meat intake and mortality.

The moderating effect of physical activity

The two graphs below show the relationships between red meat intake and mortality with (first graph) and without (second graph) the moderating effect of physical activity. Basically and with minimum statistical jargon, the numbers next to the arrows indicate the strengths of the associations (betas) and the probabilities that the associations are not real (Ps). By convention, a P value lower than 0.05 is normally seen as an indication that the association is strong enough to be considered real – i.e., not due to chance.





What the graphs above suggest is that increases in physical activity tend to make the relationship between red meat intake and mortality go from flat (or nonexistent) to negative. This is the meaning of the negative moderating coefficient next to the dashed arrow. In other words, as physical activity levels go up, more red meat intake is associated with less mortality.

The role of genetics

While being male or female means having different genetic profiles, with a full chromosome difference, the effect of biological sex on mortality appears to be confounded by the effect of physical activity. That is, physical activity, as measured in this study (using METs), is strongly correlated with biological sex, and also with mortality. As noted earlier, physical activity levels tend to be lower among females, which is in part due to them being on average smaller than males and thus burning fewer calories.

But another genetic factor that may influence the results and that is not included in this analysis is HFE hereditary haemochromatosis, a hereditary disease that leads to excessive intestinal absorption of dietary iron, resulting in iron overload. This genetic condition is relatively common in northern Europeans and their descendants, with a prevalence of 1 in 200 in this group. Factoid: it is quite common in Australia.

This level of prevalence matters when you are looking at mortality levels that vary along only approximately 8 in 1,000, as in this study. That translates to 0.4 in 200; much less than the prevalence of HFE hereditary haemochromatosis in northern Europeans and their descendants. That is, HFE hereditary haemochromatosis may be a major confounder in our analyses above, one that has not been controlled for. The study included 37,698 men from the Health Professionals Follow-up Study (1986-2008) and 83,644 women from the Nurses' Health Study (1980-2008). There must have been many individuals with HFE hereditary haemochromatosis in the sample.

In summary …

Based on all of the above, I think it is quite possible that for those who suffer from HFE hereditary haemochromatosis, both biological sex and physical activity affect the relationship between red meat intake and mortality.

Past menopause, women who suffer from HFE hereditary haemochromatosis should consider reducing their red meat intake, as well as intake of iron from other sources (particularly from pills). The same goes for men with the condition. Male and post-menopausal female sufferers should consider regularly donating blood.

Both men and women who suffer from HFE hereditary haemochromatosis should consider significantly increasing their level of physical activity to reduce the likelihood of iron overload. (This would be good for anyone.)

Why physical activity? Because iron is used to transport oxygen and in biological redox reactions, both of which are significantly increased during and after physical activity. In those who tend to accumulate iron in tissues, physical activity creates an increase in demand for iron that can balance the increased supply from iron-rich sources.

Our bodies evolved in the context of physical activity, often intense physical activity, and are thus maladapted for sedentary behavior.

15 comments:

Alex said...

Hi Ned,
I've been following your blog for the last few years and always appreciate your clear-headed approach to diet and health. And your recipes, too. Modified versions of your meatloaf and meatza are served on a weekly basis in our family.

My 5-year old son has enlarged tonsils/adenoids resulting in chronic mouth breathing and sleep apnea (but not a lot of colds/sore throats). Doctors have recommended surgery to remove them. Wondering what you think causes this condition and whether you know of alternatives to surgery that work.
Alex

Ned Kock said...

Hi Alex. Weston Price wrote about these issues, and there is an interesting piece that touches upon them at:

http://www.westonaprice.org/dentistry/mental-or-dental

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Alex said...

Hi Ned,
Thanks for pointing me to that article at the Weston Price web site. The author of the article suggests, on the one hand, that one's tonsils reach a genetically determined size regardless of the size of the jaw and other bones that surround the breathing airway, and that if the bony parts are not fully developed, the soft tissues will be compressed into a smaller passage leading to obstructed breathing. On the other hand, he suggests that tonsils might shrink if one switches to raw dairy. I've tried our son on a no diary diet without noticeable improvement.
Our ENT said that 90% of tonsils that are biopsied show no sign of infection, even if quite large. Also, I have read elsewhere that the mouth-breathing itself can lead to underdevelopment of the lower jaw.

So I guess there are a few questions that I need to get answered. 1) Are the bony parts that surround my son's airway under-developed and thereby compressing his airway? 2) Regardless of the status of the bony structures, are his adenoids and tonsils abnormally large? 3) Can the bony structures be widened through a change in diet (I think you reported your daughter saw improvement with a meat-based diet)? 4) Can the adenoids and tonsils shrink due to diet changes? and 5) Is too much damage being done by mouth-breathing and sleep apnea to wait to see if diet works - in other words have the adenoids and tonsils removed sooner rather than later?
If you have any further thoughts on this, would appreciate your input. Thanks.

Ned Kock said...
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Ned Kock said...

I would consult with a doctor who subscribes to an ancestral/evolutionary orientation to get another opinion, before resorting to surgery.

We all accumulate little problems here and there during our lives, and so did our ancestors. Surgery often provides a short-term solution to these problems while at the same time creating other problems in the long run.

Surgery can be very beneficial in acute cases. However, what is frequently referred to as “elective surgery” tends to have a poor rate of success in the long run.

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John said...

Alex, I'm 32 year old male and I too have had enlarged tonsils/adenoids resulting in mouth breathing, and sleep apnea. I'm in the same dilemma as your son, Drs are now recommending surgery. I've been on a Paleo based diet for many years and that didn't correct the problem. I've always had large tonsils, but never sore throats. I'm not sure when the sleep apnea manifested itself but I've been wrestling with it for many years now. I would like to contact you so we can share our research, findings, and dr recommendations, maybe ultimately leading to a solution. You can email me at wesleyja81@hotmail.com
- John

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JimR said...

I wish I had seen this and commented when 'fresh' but I go on regardless.

Like so many observational studies these are full of possible confounds. Perhaps some of the J uptick in the no-meat condition is due to sickly people taking up vegetarianism or vegetarianism being just bad for you. It might be interesting to see a separation of that no-meat group into 'vegetarian' and 'fish/chicken only' groups. Much more interesting though, would be a controlled, random assignment study or some instrumental variable fake thereof.